My husband and I scrimped and sacrificed to pay off our loans earlier than expected. We feel like suckers for sacrificing ‘nicer things’ to pay off our loans early.
We are so pissed about this. In the end, we didn’t co-sign any of the paperwork for any one else’s loans and don’t feel obligated to ‘help’ others pay off their loans. Both of us came from poor backgrounds and there wasn’t family help for college or life bills. They were poor too. We made dumb choices along the way and learned a lot from those mistakes.
We acknowledge that the system for paying for college needs restructuring, but this is a BS gimme. There’s simply no incentive for universities to control costs.
And you personal experience is not the point. Americans who fall for the lie that this is a personal responsibility issue male the same blunder the GOP is making except I think the GOP is doing it because it really serves the big banks and not the working class.
The American government operates on debt , extreme debt, and has done so for decades. Taxes do not pay for anything . All educational loans were created out of thin air by the Federals Reserve and then given to banks for free who charge exorbitant compound interest rates . These rates ensure for many their loans can never be paid off.
Turning this into a moral issue is farcical when you consider the US government always has money for foolish foreign adventures like the War on Adjectives or to pay for abortions in Mexico or to bailout the big banks as happened after the 08 crash but cannot bailout its own citizens ?
To allow millions of Americans to flounder in unpayable non dischargeable debt for life is a national security threat in the extreme. The high jobs rate seems to be one of the few things keeping America afloat and once that tanks you can expect more radicalization of those with unpayable debt as was seen with the Occupy Wall Street movement, Antifa and even Black Lives Matter. Student debt played no small role in creating the shock troops in these revolutionary movements.
The GOP has always been out of touch with the working class . It began as a movement of Revolutionary zealot Abolitionists and Female Suffragettes intent on destroying tradition and order. The original GOP was the Antifa of its day and its service to anti Family , anti God , anti Traditional forces is still with us today .
The Term "Moral Hazzard" was first coined in the so called "British" Parliament by a Parliamentarian who argued against sending food to Ireland during An Gorta Mor or , as its commonly known in the Anlgo-sphere , the Potato Famine , because it would "spoil" the Irish.
A millions corpses and a million refugees was the result of this weaponized hunger but the story does not end there.
The Irish Famine of the 1840's not only created Irish America it led to the militant overthrow of so called "British" governance in most of Ireland with the 1916 Easter Rising .
Allowing millions to suffer with economic burdens with no hope of relief is immoral and leads to instability .
It was the GOP President Bush jr who made student debt non dischargeable in bankruptcy. Making student debt dischargeable again is the real solution but any relief is a step in the right direction even though Bidens plan is miniscule in comparison to the problem .
The GOP's universal dismissal of the problems of everyday Americans will lead to its downfall .
1) I agree with a lot of what you’ve said. Trump only postponed the demise of the GOP given its current course because it doesn’t want to solve problems that actually matter to people. The problem is that the only alternative is even dumber.
2) I’d be okay with revamping how college is paid for through taxation, but that isn’t the system in place today. In the end, we can argue about how awful the system is, but in the end, it’s not my personal responsibility to pay for a debt that I didn’t sign for. I wasn’t asked if I was willing to go along with this plan. It was forced upon me by a President who wants to play dictator instead of going through the legislative process.
I agree the current system isn’t fair or ‘right’, but solving the problem this way is also unfair and not really right either.
3). I simply don’t have the power to change how our economy works on the macro level, so I have to do my best to work with in the system available to me. It’s not my fault if others take out more money than they can pay back. It’s also not my fault if banks keep finding new ways of screwing over their borrowers. There’s only so much that individuals can control for when dealing with the system.
“I'll take Ukrainian Money Laundering Schemes for $200 billion, Alex” . . . ding ding ding . . . It's the DAILY DOUBLE!
Zelensky, Biden, Satanism, War, Greed, Theft, Propaganda, Domestic Spying, International Intrigue, Treason, Sedition, FTX, Ukraine, Israel, Meta, Twitter, TikTok, Black Rock, Netflix, Amazon, and More . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/zelensky-biden-satanism-war-greed
Americans were forced to pay for the Global War on Terror for 2o years when millions did not support that war. I think claiming Americans were not asked if thy wanted to pay for this debt at this point in history is beyond hypocritical . Some other things Americans have been forced to pay for :
Abortions in Mexico
Transgender education in Afghanistan
Libya
Syria
Bailing out the Airlines ( who then turned around and laid off thousands of airline workers) in 2001
Bailing out the banks in 2008
Zelensky's coke and hooker fund in Ukraine
And I reiterate that Americans taxes do not pay for anything . The entire Federal and State governance in America is funded by the Fiat Dollar and now that dollar has either already collapsed or its incoming . That was the last source of American power not the military and now that is gone to my reckoning.
And even if Americans dollars did pay for anything I would say they can bail out the banks and pay for pointless foreign adventure's that Americans largely do not want they can bail out the students .
And Americans benefit from student loan forgiveness as it will stifle the radicalization of Americans with no hope and avoid the inevitable mayhem that ensues from large populations of hopeless people.
Zelensky, Biden, Satanism, War, Greed, Theft, Propaganda, Domestic Spying, International Intrigue, Treason, Sedition, FTX, Ukraine, Israel, Meta, Twitter, TikTok, Black Rock, Netflix, Amazon, and More . . .
Volodymyr Zelensky, Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX), Secretary Janet L. Yellen (U.S. Treasury), Mark Zuckerberg (Meta), Shou Chew (TikTok), Larry Fink (BlackRock), Reed Hastings (Netflix), Mike Pence, etc.
“The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.” ― Henry Ford
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” — Henry Ford
“The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit now.” ― Henry Ford
“In Washington right next to the Holocaust Museum is the Federal Reserve where they print the money. Is that an accident?” ― Louis Farrakhan
“There is nothing that the international Jew fears so much as the truth, or any hint of the truth about himself or his plans.” ― Henry Ford
I am surprised Biden (#bestpresidentever) didn't go for more money. I think it opens himself up for criticism from the far left in two years. If he can swing another bailout in eighteen months or so, perhaps by eliminating all mortgage debt for people who are underemployed, then he may have more of a chance of fighting the extreme left.
I also hate the word games the media plays with this. This is simply a debt transfer from those who don't to those who do.
“Control of the Press by the Jews is not a matter of money. It is a matter of keeping certain things out of the public mind and putting certain things into it.” ― Henry Ford
“It is the press, above all, which wages a positively fanatical and slanderous struggle, tearing down everything which can be regarded as a support of national independence, cultural elevation, and the economic independence of the nation.” ― Mein Kampf
Could a bill be be proposed with some type of accountability stipulation be put on the education or banking system (still thinking what would be best) in exchange for a partial debt cancellation, basically throwing the political ball back in the Dems court to some degree?
It's good politics. But it's also bullshit.
In my twenties, I lived well within my means so that I could pay off my loans and have enough for a down payment on a house.
Student loan forgiveness means I'm out almost $20k on net. And Inflation with the current housing market has made getting a house that much harder.
I was proud that I was responsible in my 20s. But now I realize I was a chump. I've been made a fool.
My husband and I scrimped and sacrificed to pay off our loans earlier than expected. We feel like suckers for sacrificing ‘nicer things’ to pay off our loans early.
We are so pissed about this. In the end, we didn’t co-sign any of the paperwork for any one else’s loans and don’t feel obligated to ‘help’ others pay off their loans. Both of us came from poor backgrounds and there wasn’t family help for college or life bills. They were poor too. We made dumb choices along the way and learned a lot from those mistakes.
We acknowledge that the system for paying for college needs restructuring, but this is a BS gimme. There’s simply no incentive for universities to control costs.
Welcome to ‘club chump.’
This is what paying off your student loan is doing for the country . . .
Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases . . . https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
UTTER BULLSHIT . . . This is what your student loan repayment is paying for . . .
Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases . . . https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
So, pay back your student loans like a true cuckservative, and fund the pensions of the commie jew traitors selling the country out.
And you personal experience is not the point. Americans who fall for the lie that this is a personal responsibility issue male the same blunder the GOP is making except I think the GOP is doing it because it really serves the big banks and not the working class.
The American government operates on debt , extreme debt, and has done so for decades. Taxes do not pay for anything . All educational loans were created out of thin air by the Federals Reserve and then given to banks for free who charge exorbitant compound interest rates . These rates ensure for many their loans can never be paid off.
Turning this into a moral issue is farcical when you consider the US government always has money for foolish foreign adventures like the War on Adjectives or to pay for abortions in Mexico or to bailout the big banks as happened after the 08 crash but cannot bailout its own citizens ?
To allow millions of Americans to flounder in unpayable non dischargeable debt for life is a national security threat in the extreme. The high jobs rate seems to be one of the few things keeping America afloat and once that tanks you can expect more radicalization of those with unpayable debt as was seen with the Occupy Wall Street movement, Antifa and even Black Lives Matter. Student debt played no small role in creating the shock troops in these revolutionary movements.
The GOP has always been out of touch with the working class . It began as a movement of Revolutionary zealot Abolitionists and Female Suffragettes intent on destroying tradition and order. The original GOP was the Antifa of its day and its service to anti Family , anti God , anti Traditional forces is still with us today .
The Term "Moral Hazzard" was first coined in the so called "British" Parliament by a Parliamentarian who argued against sending food to Ireland during An Gorta Mor or , as its commonly known in the Anlgo-sphere , the Potato Famine , because it would "spoil" the Irish.
A millions corpses and a million refugees was the result of this weaponized hunger but the story does not end there.
The Irish Famine of the 1840's not only created Irish America it led to the militant overthrow of so called "British" governance in most of Ireland with the 1916 Easter Rising .
Allowing millions to suffer with economic burdens with no hope of relief is immoral and leads to instability .
It was the GOP President Bush jr who made student debt non dischargeable in bankruptcy. Making student debt dischargeable again is the real solution but any relief is a step in the right direction even though Bidens plan is miniscule in comparison to the problem .
The GOP's universal dismissal of the problems of everyday Americans will lead to its downfall .
1) I agree with a lot of what you’ve said. Trump only postponed the demise of the GOP given its current course because it doesn’t want to solve problems that actually matter to people. The problem is that the only alternative is even dumber.
2) I’d be okay with revamping how college is paid for through taxation, but that isn’t the system in place today. In the end, we can argue about how awful the system is, but in the end, it’s not my personal responsibility to pay for a debt that I didn’t sign for. I wasn’t asked if I was willing to go along with this plan. It was forced upon me by a President who wants to play dictator instead of going through the legislative process.
I agree the current system isn’t fair or ‘right’, but solving the problem this way is also unfair and not really right either.
3). I simply don’t have the power to change how our economy works on the macro level, so I have to do my best to work with in the system available to me. It’s not my fault if others take out more money than they can pay back. It’s also not my fault if banks keep finding new ways of screwing over their borrowers. There’s only so much that individuals can control for when dealing with the system.
“I'll take Ukrainian Money Laundering Schemes for $200 billion, Alex” . . . ding ding ding . . . It's the DAILY DOUBLE!
Zelensky, Biden, Satanism, War, Greed, Theft, Propaganda, Domestic Spying, International Intrigue, Treason, Sedition, FTX, Ukraine, Israel, Meta, Twitter, TikTok, Black Rock, Netflix, Amazon, and More . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/zelensky-biden-satanism-war-greed
Americans were forced to pay for the Global War on Terror for 2o years when millions did not support that war. I think claiming Americans were not asked if thy wanted to pay for this debt at this point in history is beyond hypocritical . Some other things Americans have been forced to pay for :
Abortions in Mexico
Transgender education in Afghanistan
Libya
Syria
Bailing out the Airlines ( who then turned around and laid off thousands of airline workers) in 2001
Bailing out the banks in 2008
Zelensky's coke and hooker fund in Ukraine
And I reiterate that Americans taxes do not pay for anything . The entire Federal and State governance in America is funded by the Fiat Dollar and now that dollar has either already collapsed or its incoming . That was the last source of American power not the military and now that is gone to my reckoning.
And even if Americans dollars did pay for anything I would say they can bail out the banks and pay for pointless foreign adventure's that Americans largely do not want they can bail out the students .
And Americans benefit from student loan forgiveness as it will stifle the radicalization of Americans with no hope and avoid the inevitable mayhem that ensues from large populations of hopeless people.
Zelensky, Biden, Satanism, War, Greed, Theft, Propaganda, Domestic Spying, International Intrigue, Treason, Sedition, FTX, Ukraine, Israel, Meta, Twitter, TikTok, Black Rock, Netflix, Amazon, and More . . .
Volodymyr Zelensky, Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX), Secretary Janet L. Yellen (U.S. Treasury), Mark Zuckerberg (Meta), Shou Chew (TikTok), Larry Fink (BlackRock), Reed Hastings (Netflix), Mike Pence, etc.
https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/zelensky-biden-satanism-war-greed
“The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.” ― Henry Ford
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” — Henry Ford
“The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit now.” ― Henry Ford
“In Washington right next to the Holocaust Museum is the Federal Reserve where they print the money. Is that an accident?” ― Louis Farrakhan
“There is nothing that the international Jew fears so much as the truth, or any hint of the truth about himself or his plans.” ― Henry Ford
I am surprised Biden (#bestpresidentever) didn't go for more money. I think it opens himself up for criticism from the far left in two years. If he can swing another bailout in eighteen months or so, perhaps by eliminating all mortgage debt for people who are underemployed, then he may have more of a chance of fighting the extreme left.
I also hate the word games the media plays with this. This is simply a debt transfer from those who don't to those who do.
“Control of the Press by the Jews is not a matter of money. It is a matter of keeping certain things out of the public mind and putting certain things into it.” ― Henry Ford
“It is the press, above all, which wages a positively fanatical and slanderous struggle, tearing down everything which can be regarded as a support of national independence, cultural elevation, and the economic independence of the nation.” ― Mein Kampf
Could a bill be be proposed with some type of accountability stipulation be put on the education or banking system (still thinking what would be best) in exchange for a partial debt cancellation, basically throwing the political ball back in the Dems court to some degree?